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Official Statement: Nicanor 'Nick' Perlas to Challenge COMELEC Decision http://is.gd/5rZY5 #ibaliksinick #nicanorperlas
Dec 17, '09 10:25 PM
by Dino for everyone
60 Comments
aamind wrote on Dec 18, '09
hope they (comelec) do. thanks for the links you texted dino.
simplescience wrote on Dec 18, '09
kailangan i-balance ang intelligence with common sense. mukha wala nito si nick. sayang naman.
filipinowriter wrote on Dec 18, '09
aamind said
hope they (comelec) do. thanks for the links you texted dino.
You're welcome, Gelo. :) Kailangan lang talaga makilala si Nick ng mga tao. :)
chitoirigo wrote on Dec 18, '09
Para sa akin, si Nick Perlas is not a person, i.e. he is more of an idea (for now). I think he's part of a slow process of a long transition of reform in our politics, just as the three Kapatiran senate candidates were during last elections (they did not win but were able to prove by the votes they garnered that there are many people who want to change the old politics). Inspite of the prevalence of the "old politics," I'm still hopeful that we will eventually mature.
filipinowriter wrote on Dec 18, '09
kailangan i-balance ang intelligence with common sense. mukha wala nito si nick. sayang naman.
Simplescience, if you can just be more specific, then we can reply properly. :) If you're referring to the winnability issue, then Nick has already addressed that in some of his articles - http://www.nicanor-perlas.com/Articles-and-Editorials/all-articles-of-nicanor-perlas.html . My common sense also tells me that if the electorate would just stop doing the obvious, or doing things out of habit, and dare to dream, and think out of the box, then we would all be in a better place right now. For me, the best kind of sense is creative thinking and thinking big.
filipinowriter wrote on Dec 18, '09
Para sa akin, si Nick Perlas is not a person, i.e. he is more of an idea (for now). I think he's part of a slow process of a long transition of reform in our politics, just as the three Kapatiran senate candidates were during last elections (they did not win but were able to prove by the votes they garnered that there are many people who want to change the old politics). Inspite of the prevalence of the "old politics," I'm still hopeful that we will eventually mature.
Chito, Nick is both. He did it -- he has the track record http://www.nicanor-perlas.com/About-Nicanor-Perlas/biography-nicanor-perlas.html -- and therefore he is. He is also an idea because Nick represents all our collective ideas of what we want our country to be. A slow process can be expedited if most or all of the truly reform-minded Filipinos would start acting now, and hold the fate of this nation in their hands. A process is only a process because people initiated it and are ACTING upon it.
myrabeltran wrote on Dec 18, '09
And what are we all, but ideas ourselves? :-)
aamind wrote on Dec 19, '09
dino do you have a copy of his book?
shenbrood wrote on Dec 19, '09
Intelligence is common sense. Remember that reality is not constant and what we want can be reality. For me ayaw kong sabnihin na "common sense" na dapat mayaman at dapat ganito kabulok ang ating sistema. Dapat baguhin na natin ito ngayon na. NGAYON NA TAYO KUMILOS... parang awa nyo na kasi ako ayaw ko na maranasan pa ito ng mga anak ko.
shenbrood wrote on Dec 19, '09
Nicanor Perlas is the best candidate we have for the 2010 elections... he will empower us and lead us to a vision of a new and better Philippines... sana wag na natin itong palampasin pa... sama na http:/w/ww.kaperlas.com
filipinowriter wrote on Dec 19, '09
aamind said
dino do you have a copy of his book?
Yes, but am reading it right now. :) I can get you a copy though -- 300 pesos lang, suporta na rin sa campaign niya. :)
ellafitz wrote on Dec 19, '09
111 people (and counting) from all as far as Australia, Chile and Switzerland are demanding for Comelec to LET NICK RUN! Sign today and be counted. We desperately need a real choice in 2010.

Sign the petition here:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/613017445/
filipinowriter wrote on Dec 19, '09, edited on Dec 19, '09
111 people (and counting) from all as far as Australia, Chile and Switzerland are demanding for Comelec to LET NICK RUN! Sign today and be counted. We desperately need a real choice in 2010.

Sign the petition here:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/613017445/
153 na. Andami palang international fans ni Nick. Starstruck. :D
filipinowriter wrote on Dec 19, '09
And what are we all, but ideas ourselves? :-)
And the more noble the idea, the better. :)
simplescience wrote on Dec 19, '09
Sana sa Congress muna nagpakita ng gilas. Hindi pwede na Don Quixote style. Simply over ambitious.
simplescience wrote on Dec 19, '09
Sorry may dichotomy and dalawa. Maraming magagaling na walang common sense. Di ko minamaliit ang kakayanan nila.
simplescience wrote on Dec 19, '09
Agree ako! Common sense dictates that we start educating kids. Kailanga dito mga 2-3 generations to say the very least. Ito ang reality nating Pinoys having been in existence for the past 50T years.
aamind wrote on Dec 19, '09
Yes, but am reading it right now. :) I can get you a copy though -- 300 pesos lang, suporta na rin sa campaign niya. :)
hehe 300 pesos... lang sa yo?
dotlenore wrote on Dec 19, '09
simplescience, nick already showed his "gilas" in all his global achievements. alternative nobel prize awardee na nga siya, and TOYM awardee, too.
simplescience wrote on Dec 19, '09
tunay ka! global achievements are valuable. Mas maganda din sana kung may nakitang gilas di lamang sa kanyang expertise. Isang gilas na masasabi ay ang pagsubok kung ang narating ni nick ay tatanggapin halimbawa sa isang region bilang congressman- tulad ni obama na sumubok munang senador. bakit kailangang magmadali- kalimitan haste makes waste!
filipinowriter wrote on Dec 19, '09
aamind said
hehe 300 pesos... lang sa yo?
Nope, 300 pesos lang talaga benta nya. :) Soft-bound. :)
filipinowriter wrote on Dec 19, '09
Sana sa Congress muna nagpakita ng gilas. Hindi pwede na Don Quixote style. Simply over ambitious.
Bakit kailangan mong 'magpakita ng gilas' pa sa Kongreso? Ano ba ibig sabihin ng 'magpakitang gilas?' Kung ibig sabihin nito ay patunayan na maaari ka munang manalo sa local level, medyo mababaw yata itong dahilan. Kung ibig sabihin naman nito ay matulungan muna ni Nick ang mga mahihirap, nagawa na niya ito sa pagtulong sa mga mahihirap via microfinance at pagtulong sa mga magsasaka na palaguin ang kanilang mga ani na hindi gumagamit ng mga nakakalasong kemikal. Ngunit dahil sinabi mong Don Quixote style, you're suggesting na isang kalokohan at walang basehan ang pagtakbo ni Nick na hindi totoo, sapagkat kung pagbabatayan na nga ang mga nabanggit ko, isa siya sa mga pinaka-qualified, if not number 1 sa mga qualified tumakbo.

Pero sa tingin ko, dahil sinabi mong 'overly ambitious,' mas tinutukoy mo siguro ang kakayahan niyang manalo o ang winnability issue. Para sa akin, walang layunin na hindi imposible, as long as matatag ang pundasyon ng layunin na ito. Dahil sa matatag ang pundasyon, mas madali itong ilako sa tao, sapagkat matibay. Dahil matatag at matibay, mas may alab ang mga tao na isakatuparan ang layunin na ito. Tama si Nick, magsimula ka muna sa vision, o sa kalawakan at kalaliman ng pagtanaw -- http://www.nicanor-perlas.com/Nicanor/complete-platform2.html -- at tiyak maaakit mo ang mga tao. At hindi lang maaakit. Sila mismo ipaglalaban kung anuman ang vision o pinaglalaban mo. Marahil diyan tayo magkaiba. Para sa akin, malaking mga bagay ang 1) ALAB ng pagsulong ng isang tao sa isang layunin at 2) ang BATAYAN o pundasyon ng alab na ito. Kapag taglay mo ang mga mahahalagang sangkap na ito, para sa akin, walang layunin na 'simply over ambitious.'
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filipinowriter wrote on Dec 19, '09, edited on Dec 19, '09
Agree ako! Common sense dictates that we start educating kids. Kailanga dito mga 2-3 generations to say the very least. Ito ang reality nating Pinoys having been in existence for the past 50T years.
Ayon sa mga sulat ni Nick, you are referring to the CULTURAL sphere o realm. Na kailangang turuan ang mga tao. Tama naman yan. Ngunit hindi nito ibig sabihin na di mo puwedeng isabay ang pagbabago sa POLITICAL sphere. Hindi sila mutually exclusive. Maaari silang gawin ng sabay. At mas maganda ngang gawin ng bagay, dahil mas pinapatibay mo ang istruktura at well-being o kalusugan ng society. Kaya nga ng tumakbo si Nick, hindi niya isinama ang mga institusyon ng civil society kung saan siya ang nagpundar o kaanib gaya ng PAGASA http://www.pagasa.net.ph/PAGASA/PAGASA.html -- sapagkat naniniwala siya na may mga tungkulin silang dapat gampanan sa lipunan at kailangan na sila ay hiwalay. Sila ang magbabantay sa tradisyunal na istruktura ng pamahalaan -- ang tatlong sangay ng Executive, Legislative, and Judiciary (na mas lalong pinahina ng kasulukuyang pamahalaan) -- at magpapaalaala sa mga ito kung ano ang kanilang tungkulin sa lipunan. http://www.nicanor-perlas.com/Articles-and-Editorials/societal-threefolding-iii.html

So ang punto lang dito, hindi taliwas ang pagtakbo ni Nick sa pagbabago nating hinahangad sa ating lipunan. Bagkus, mas pinagtitibay pa nito ang nasabing pagbabago.
simplescience wrote on Dec 20, '09
hinikayat si nick na tumakbo muna sa mas mabababang pwesto na marami niyang kaibigan pero nanaig ang kapusukan kaya ngayon kailangang maghabol sa isang animo'y panaginip. kung napagaralan ng husto sana hindi ganito ngayon. Masusing pagaaral- yan ang common sense para sa ambisyong manageable.
simplescience wrote on Dec 20, '09
kaya nga dapat isulong na simulan ang pinakabata sa pagbabago ng kaisipan. Ang palatuntunan ni nick ay magiging mabisa lamang kung susunod ang mas nakakarami. wala tayong nakikitang malawakang supporta sa kanya sa kaslukuyan. sa comelec pa lang laglag na.

makabubuti na ilagay ang lakas at puwersa ni nick sa pagsulong ng pagbabagong hindi sa kagustuhan na mamuno agad. marami pang nick na dadating sa Pilipinas. mabuti at nasimulan nya.
filipinowriter wrote on Dec 20, '09
kaya nga dapat isulong na simulan ang pinakabata sa pagbabago ng kaisipan. Ang palatuntunan ni nick ay magiging mabisa lamang kung susunod ang mas nakakarami. wala tayong nakikitang malawakang supporta sa kanya sa kaslukuyan. sa comelec pa lang laglag na.

makabubuti na ilagay ang lakas at puwersa ni nick sa pagsulong ng pagbabagong hindi sa kagustuhan na mamuno agad. marami pang nick na dadating sa Pilipinas. mabuti at nasimulan nya.
Naniniwala akong mayroong malawakang suporta si Nick na mas lalo pang lalaki kung maipakilala siya sa mga tao. Iba ang malawakang suporta at iba ang COMELEC. Kaya't pag sinabi mong inilaglag siya ng COMELEC, wala yung kinalaman sa suporta ng karamihan ng tao kay Nick. Ang boses ng iilang nakaupo sa COMELEC ay hindi ang boses ng karamihan ng tao.

Tungkol sa pamumuno ngayon, sa tingin ko naman, bakit kailangan mo pang iasa sa mga susunod na henerasyon ang maaari mo namang magawa ngayon? Ang kailangan lang nating gawin ay maniwala, at ibuhos ng buo ang ating pagkatao tungo sa pagkamit ng isang marangal na layunin.

filipinowriter wrote on Dec 20, '09, edited on Dec 20, '09
hinikayat si nick na tumakbo muna sa mas mabababang pwesto na marami niyang kaibigan pero nanaig ang kapusukan kaya ngayon kailangang maghabol sa isang animo'y panaginip. kung napagaralan ng husto sana hindi ganito ngayon. Masusing pagaaral- yan ang common sense para sa ambisyong manageable.
Sa tingin ko hindi ito kapusukan kung hindi pagkamulat na kailangan na natin ng matinong mamumuno ng ating bansa NGAYON at hindi sa hinaharap. At sa tingin ko rin, masusing pinag-isipan at pinag-aralan ni Nick ang pananaw na ito.
simplescience wrote on Dec 20, '09
Salamat- mabuti palagi na makita ang dalawang mukha ng baryang pera. saludo ako sa passion mo. hanggang dito na lang ako.
filipinowriter wrote on Dec 20, '09
Salamat- mabuti palagi na makita ang dalawang mukha ng baryang pera. saludo ako sa passion mo. hanggang dito na lang ako.
Maganda ngang pinag-uusapan ang isang bagay/paksa at ito'y tumitingkad, lumilinaw, anuman ang iyong opinyon. :) Salamat din! :)
nexkulit wrote on Dec 20, '09, edited on Dec 20, '09
Sorry may dichotomy and dalawa. Maraming magagaling na walang common sense. Di ko minamaliit ang kakayanan nila.
Dichotomy is the reason we cannot reach a common goal. It seems that your statements above are judgments. And judgments are mere projections. What you judge in others is what you need to see in yourself. This country does not need debates, arguments and judgments. And I am not arguing with you, merely stating my observations. The country is longing for its citizens to act for one purpose, for one vision --that of a united Filipino people realizing that what we each can do for ourselves we can do for others, what we can do as a country will help the entire world. If you visit the international petition launched by a Nicanor Perlas volunteer, you will see that already we are doing that, we are making the world move, and you will also realize that the world is waiting for us, Filipinos to act! So, please, enough with dichotomies...let us move as ONE! Towards the New Philippines!
nexkulit wrote on Dec 20, '09
hinikayat si nick na tumakbo muna sa mas mabababang pwesto na marami niyang kaibigan pero nanaig ang kapusukan kaya ngayon kailangang maghabol sa isang animo'y panaginip. kung napagaralan ng husto sana hindi ganito ngayon. Masusing pagaaral- yan ang common sense para sa ambisyong manageable.
Simplescience, hmm, sa aking palagay ang paradigm mo ay nagmumula sa tinatawag nating "talangka mentality". Ito ang maling pananaw nating mga Pilipino sa sarili natin, ang "deeply-ingrained" na pagtingin na anumang gawain ay hindi dapat maging "ambitious" (words that you've been using in your other comments). Kaya't mahirap sa'yong unawain ang ginagawa ni Nick, ang "THINKING BIG". Alam mo ba kung gaano kalala ang "talangka mentality" natin, kapag may nakikita tayong gumagawa na maaaring magtagumpay (o nagtagumpay na) ay hinihila natin pababa --samantalang sa totoong buhay ang mga alimasag at alimango ay hindi naman naghihilahan datapwa'y nagtutulungang makaakyat. At maliban pa sa inangkin nating mga Pilipino ang Crab Mentality na yan (na makikita natin sa America ngayon, at iba rin namang mga bansa) ay pinaliit pa nga natin at ginawang talangka. Ang mga analisis na ito ay halaw sa mga aral na ginawa ni Felipe "Jun" De Leon, Jr at hindi mga haka-haka ko lamang.

At ang sinasabi mong mapusok na paghahabol ni Nick sa isang panaginip ay isa na namang baseless judgment on your part. Hindi kailangang sumalang ni Nick sa pulitika (dahil matagal na niyang ginagawa ang effecting change kahit isa lamang siyang private citizen), kailangan siya ng Pilipinas sapagkat nagbabadya na ang tunay na pagbabago at ang maaari lamang magsulong nito ay ang mga lider na tulad ni Nicanor Perlas, kasama ng mga taong dumaan sa matinding pagbabago. Base sa mga sinusulat mo ay naniniwala akong isa ka sa mga taong hindi pa nga nagkakaroon ng "Inner Change/ Transformation", at hangga't hindi mo ito napagdaraanan ay hindi magiging malinaw ang proseso ng panlipunang pagbabago para sa iyo -- Inner Change leads to Societal Transformation. At sinisiguro ko sa'yo na masusing pinag-aralan ni Nick ang kanyang pagtakbo, higit pa siguro sa pagkakaunawa mo sa salitang pag-aaral, dahil sa "dumi at baho" ng pulitika ngayon hindi gugustuhin ng sinumang tumakbo. Ngunit dahil nauunawaan niya ang komprehensibong pangangailangan ng ating bayan siya ay naglakas-loob na pumasok dito at simulan ang pagbabago ng pulitika.


simplescience wrote on Dec 20, '09
kailangan na tumigil kasi emotional na ang iba nating kasama. gudah tnx
marund4evr wrote on Dec 21, '09
I tend to read simplescience as someone with practicality in mind rather than a lot to talk about noble ideals of nationhood. But as I continue reading the responses and ideas, i realize, simplescience is making sense. a lot of sense, in fact. Simplescience works on the method and how to achieve it. The goal, ultimately, is the same as all of us. We underscore the need for someone to represent our ideals and what generations are clamoring for. But simplescience does not work against that need. In fact, he/she provides how much we work hard for, can not mean anything at all if there is not much preparation to make it happen in the first place. That is roughly putting it, but this makes sense to me.

I just signed for the Petition but sadly, with less courage than I had before the COMELEC ruling. All along, simplescience little logic appealed to me. "That Nick would have faired better and would have earned a place in our philippine politics if it was less than the presidency", in my way of speaking, was starting to matter to me now. Have we achieved less of what we had hoped for after all? Would it matter to run for congress or the senate and won decisively and gather popular support later on when the next presidential election happens?

There are a lot of us who put our hopes on Nick's shoulders. And ,oh how much we desire for a change! Simplescience speaks only of the sure but slow and gradual undoing of 'the-way-things-are-done-nowadays'. I look around me and see how much we need to do. But we have to hammer the head in slow but sure focus, and once it bores through, then it becomes easy driving half of the nail in its place.
filipinowriter wrote on Dec 21, '09, edited on Dec 21, '09
I tend to read simplescience as someone with practicality in mind rather than a lot to talk about noble ideals of nationhood. But as I continue reading the responses and ideas, i realize, simplescience is making sense. a lot of sense, in fact. Simplescience works on the method and how to achieve it. The goal, ultimately, is the same as all of us. We underscore the need for someone to represent our ideals and what generations are clamoring for. But simplescience does not work against that need. In fact, he/she provides how much we work hard for, can not mean anything at all if there is not much preparation to make it happen in the first place. That is roughly putting it, but this makes sense to me.

I just signed for the Petition but sadly, with less courage than I had before the COMELEC ruling. All along, simplescience little logic appealed to me. "That Nick would have faired better and would have earned a place in our philippine politics if it was less than the presidency", in my way of speaking, was starting to matter to me now. Have we achieved less of what we had hoped for after all? Would it matter to run for congress or the senate and won decisively and gather popular support later on when the next presidential election happens?

There are a lot of us who put our hopes on Nick's shoulders. And ,oh how much we desire for a change! Simplescience speaks only of the sure but slow and gradual undoing of 'the-way-things-are-done-nowadays'. I look around me and see how much we need to do. But we have to hammer the head in slow but sure focus, and once it bores through, then it becomes easy driving half of the nail in its place.
I don't exactly know how the discussions went when they were talking about Nick's running for office, but all I know is I sure AM GLAD Nick is running for the presidency. He's the only candidate who inspires me, and makes me get off my butt and campaign (and God knows he does because I've been sick since I volunteered just a week ago). I just wish that supporters of Nick who were at odds with him regarding his decision would support and CAMPAIGN for him now. Imagine how much stronger his campaign would be, because even now, we don't really have to try hard convincing people. As soon as they learn about his accomplishments and integrity and vision, it's an easy sell. Nick might know something that we don't, but I guess it's really not a secret, because he's always been uttering it in interviews and forums. Start with a vision and they will come...
simplescience wrote on Dec 21, '09
Writing on the walls: Comelec decision and New Pulse Asia Survey. If the purpose is to be known further by voters for future plans, the strategy doesn't work using the Presidential route. A worthwhile alternative would be to withdraw and start educating the kids. These warm bodies will be ready in 15-20 years to become parents who will continue the noble goals. Then the grand children will be ready to pickup the new Nicky Perlas! Mabuhay!!!
filipinowriter wrote on Dec 21, '09
Writing on the walls: Comelec decision and New Pulse Asia Survey. If the purpose is to be known further by voters for future plans, the strategy doesn't work using the Presidential route. A worthwhile alternative would be to withdraw and start educating the kids. These warm bodies will be ready in 15-20 years to become parents who will continue the noble goals. Then the grand children will be ready to pickup the new Nicky Perlas! Mabuhay!!!
Huh?? Di pa nga nag-sstart ang campaign period. Too early for that conclusion. So tuloy lang.
marund4evr wrote on Dec 21, '09
We go on in the midst of no clear comelec ruling. We might as well make noise and gather attention. And for how much and how long would it take?

Let us make no pretensions that we can pull it off and make presidency as reality. We maybe wasting already scant resources that makes worthwhile investment when a new election happens for Nick's congress or senate. I know, I am taking this topic a bit further off. But I am just trying to work something out here between simplescience's pratical thinking and clear vision and on the other, filipinowriter's impassioned plea for noble cause.

Reading back, "Nick... is more of an idea for now" says chitoirigo. I hate to agree at such an inconvenient truth. Or probably, I am just too naive to realize that it has been so. Nasa jeep ako kanina, and just overheard on the radio: Marcos jr. is now inching on the 9th senatorial slot in the latest survey. Just how can I expect from our people the sense of right or wrong? For such a simple discretion, and just how much do i expect from our people who seemingly only want miracles and drama, when Nick speaks only with PLAIN truth.
Few souls would lend an ear. But we can not turn the tide. Not right now, at least. And not with barely 5 short months. And a comelec ruling that is hanging over our heads...
simplescience wrote on Dec 21, '09
I'm a supporter of Nicky and many of my friends are. When Noynoy declared his intention, I was hoping Nicky would bow down and transform the political game he started into an option support and an arm of the (possible) new administration. But then he burned the bridge to Noynoy. From thereon, things Nick will do will be regarded with suspicion. A new plan should be in place to salvage the situation.
filipinowriter wrote on Dec 23, '09
Actually, the COMELEC's disqualification of Nick has been a blessing, drawing more public and media attention to Nick's candidacy, his qualifications, and his vision for New Politics. There will always be people who will look at the glass half-empty, but I believe that with what happened, we are actually making great strides, making people more aware of how flawed and absurd our system is, and that what Nick is fighting for might just be what the country needs.

One will never be able to accurately predict the future, but one can control one's destiny, including the destiny of this nation. I have faith that once the disqualification hurdle is overcome, everything will fall into place, with more people rallying to the cause and making the vision a reality. But whatever happens, for me, this is one battle worth fighting for.
ellafitz wrote on Dec 23, '09, edited on Dec 23, '09
hi marund4evr,

if not now when?

at nagtataka ako sa proposal na lower office - bakit kailangan ipagpaliban? kelan pa balak simulan? bakit kelangan slow/sure steps kung me perfect candidate for the job? overdue na na magkalider tayo na ganito ka handa at ka qualified. swak na swak. para sa akin gusto ko nang itodo yung kaloob ng tadhana. gumawa ako ng personal na desisyon tumaya para sa isang rare opportunity na magkaroon ng bagong pinas. quota na ko sa pagiging frustrated.

ikaw na nga mismo frustrated na. di ka ba pagod mafrustrate? ano ang minumungkahi mo na alternative plan of action?

"There are a lot of us who put our hopes on Nick's shoulders"

palagay ko unfair to put it all on his shoulders. we should do our part.
kasama tayo sa bubuno ng mga minimithi natin para sa bansa.

sinusulusyunan namin yung disqualification. intayin po natin kung anung magiging resulta nito. you just never know. mas makakatulong if you give us good energy instead of verbalizing your doubts.

salamat pala for signing the petition. did you sign the international version?

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/let-nick-run

ultimo citizens ng ibang bansa ganun nalang ang kumpyansa ke sir nick. hindi malayong mahawa ang mga botante =)
ellafitz wrote on Dec 23, '09
I'm a supporter of Nicky and many of my friends are. When Noynoy declared his intention, I was hoping Nicky would bow down and transform the political game he started into an option support and an arm of the (possible) new administration. But then he burned the bridge to Noynoy. From thereon, things Nick will do will be regarded with suspicion. A new plan should be in place to salvage the situation.
bakit regarded with suspicion? dahil may paninindigan? di ba mas dapat mas kahangaan?

hindi lahat nilagnat with the yellow fever. isa ako doon.

si noy i consider lesser evil. bat maglelesser evil kung naryan na ang "the one"

one of many reasons why nick is "the one" and not noy:

noynoy's platfrom is 5 page long (the pdf version) and very reactionary to gma's ills
http://www.noynoy.ph/main/transformational-leadership.php

nick's platform is over 20 pages long (noong sinubukan kong iprint) very sound and inclusive. masustansya.
http://www.nicanor-perlas.com/Nicanor/complete-platform2.html

nexkulit wrote on Dec 23, '09
I tend to read simplescience as someone with practicality in mind rather than a lot to talk about noble ideals of nationhood. But as I continue reading the responses and ideas, i realize, simplescience is making sense. a lot of sense, in fact. Simplescience works on the method and how to achieve it. The goal, ultimately, is the same as all of us. We underscore the need for someone to represent our ideals and what generations are clamoring for. But simplescience does not work against that need. In fact, he/she provides how much we work hard for, can not mean anything at all if there is not much preparation to make it happen in the first place. That is roughly putting it, but this makes sense to me.

I just signed for the Petition but sadly, with less courage than I had before the COMELEC ruling. All along, simplescience little logic appealed to me. "That Nick would have faired better and would have earned a place in our philippine politics if it was less than the presidency", in my way of speaking, was starting to matter to me now. Have we achieved less of what we had hoped for after all? Would it matter to run for congress or the senate and won decisively and gather popular support later on when the next presidential election happens?

There are a lot of us who put our hopes on Nick's shoulders. And ,oh how much we desire for a change! Simplescience speaks only of the sure but slow and gradual undoing of 'the-way-things-are-done-nowadays'. I look around me and see how much we need to do. But we have to hammer the head in slow but sure focus, and once it bores through, then it becomes easy driving half of the nail in its place.
Practicality, Pragmatism --bakit lagi itong hinihiwalay sa Idealism? Samantalang ang dalawa ay necessary aspect of each other. I guess, tulad ni simplescience, naglalaro rin ang diwa mo sa dichotomy and duality. Mahirap talagang makita ang kabuuan kapag ang paradigm na gamit ay separation. Noble ideas give direction to practical actions. Kapag ang practicality lang ang nakikita at sinusunod mo, paikot-ikot ka lang sa sistemang baluktot at bulok.

There is no slow or sure way kung ang usapin ay urgent at matter-of-life-and-death. At yan ang katotohanan, at tunay na inconvenient truth. Pabulusok na ang ating bansa pababa dahil sa korupsyon, kawalan ng pag-asa (apathy), kahirapan, immoralidad, at ang di mabilang na mga sakunang kinakarap at kakaharapin pa dahil sa paglapastangan natin sa ating kalikasan.

I keep hearing the same message from you, simplescience and a lot of people, and I realize that it is the Voice of Apathy that is so strong and prevalent in our country, in our fellow Filipinos. And that is why most don't recognize hope anymore, masyado nang malalim at nanuot ang kawalang pag-asa sa maramin sa atin. Nakakalungkot, pero nakakaengganyo rin lalo na sa amin na ipagpatuloy ang laban, dahil at least kilala namin ang "kaaway" --hindi ang kapwa Pilipino, hindi ikaw o si simplescience kundi ang Apathy.
nexkulit wrote on Dec 23, '09, edited on Dec 23, '09
I'm a supporter of Nicky and many of my friends are. When Noynoy declared his intention, I was hoping Nicky would bow down and transform the political game he started into an option support and an arm of the (possible) new administration. But then he burned the bridge to Noynoy. From thereon, things Nick will do will be regarded with suspicion. A new plan should be in place to salvage the situation.
When Noynoy ran and the previous supporters of Nick jumped ship, alam kong nasilaw sila. Malamang isa ka doon, at ako hindi. Marami kasing nag-akala na si Noynoy ang "tunay na sagot", at ang nagbibitbit ng "transform politics". Hindi lahat madaling kumilatis ng totoo sa peke. Pero kung gusto mo talagang malaman kung ano ang tunay sa peke, maghintay ka lang, dahil over time nalulusaw ang electro-plating ng peke. And true enough, unti-unting lumabas ang tunay na kulay ni Noynoy. Tingnan mo ang chopsuey na hitsura ng Liberal Party, joke na lang kung maniniwala kang transform politics pa rin ang partidong yan...? At lalo na si Noynoy. TV Ad pa lang trapo na. Partido, trapo. Platform, trapo. Ewan ko nga ba talaga ba't kailangan pang pag-usapan, napaka-simple lang intindihin, mahirap kung nilalabanan at nagbubulag-bulagan. Dahil kahit anong intellectualization ang gamitin mo, di maikakaila ang pagiging trapo ni Noynoy, Mar at ng buong partido nila.
Anyway, para sa akin si Nick lang ang klaro sa lahat ng yan, klarong New Politics.
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simplescience wrote on Dec 23, '09
May realities ang buhay na kailanga makita. Sinusulong ko lang ang pananaw na may alternative na maaring magawa kahit ngayon pa lang. Yung rating na 0.03 % (SWS survey) ni Nick is a "bangungot call." Maaring nagsasayang lang tayo ng panahon kung pagpipilitan ang pagkapangulong landasin sa ngayon. Kaisa ako sa layunin ni Nick subali't ang sinasabi ko ay di ganap na pinagaralan ang pakikipagtungali. We can burn our energies and at the end of the day realize na sana nag step tayo backwards para sa paglundag muli ay makamit ang tagumpay. In the spectrum of this struggle, you are at one far end and I am at the otherside pero magkasama. Hindi maganda na maging emotional kasi sumasarado ang pagkakataon na makita ang mas malaking Battle. Nick's predicament is merely an encounter. Marami pang fronts na dapat atupagin.
simplescience wrote on Dec 23, '09
inulit ko lang for emphasis- May realities ang buhay na kailanga makita. Sinusulong ko lang ang pananaw na may alternative na maaring magawa kahit ngayon pa lang. Yung rating na 0.03 % (SWS survey) ni Nick is a "bangungot call." Maaring nagsasayang lang tayo ng panahon kung pagpipilitan ang pagkapangulong landasin sa ngayon. Kaisa ako sa layunin ni Nick subali't ang sinasabi ko ay di ganap na pinagaralan ang pakikipagtungali. We can burn our energies and at the end of the day realize na sana nag step tayo backwards para sa paglundag muli ay makamit ang tagumpay. In the spectrum of this struggle, you are at one far end and I am at the otherside pero magkasama. Hindi maganda na maging emotional kasi sumasarado ang pagkakataon na makita ang mas malaking Battle. Nick's predicament is merely an encounter. Marami pang fronts na dapat atupagin.
ellafitz wrote on Dec 23, '09
hi simplescience,

salamat - i hear you and i believe when you say kaisa ka sa layunin. nirerespeto ko ang take mo sa situation. lets agree to disagree =)

have a good holiday =)
simplescience wrote on Dec 23, '09
salamat- isang mapagpalang kapaskohan din kaibigan!
filipinowriter wrote on Dec 24, '09
Kung di ako nagkakamali, ng mga unang surveys, wala pa si Nick. Ngayon 0.03% na. Hindi pa todo ang grassroots campaign niyan. At konting mainstream at alternative media pa lang iyan. Paano pa kung magsimula na ang kampanya kung saan ang lakas at hatak ng bawat volunteer ay makakahikayat ng mas marami. Magkakaiba talaga tayo ng pananaw. Kasi ang sinasabi mong "bangungot call," ay isang malaking positibo sa amin.

Tungkol naman sa pagsayang ng lakas, di ko nakikita kung paano nagiging kasayangan ang isang pagkilos kung saan pinapakilala at itinuturo mo sa mga tao ang isang vision at isang makabago at makataong pamamaraang pulitikal. At di mo lang itinuturo, ginagawa mo itong institusyon sa pamamagitan ng paghikayat sa mga tao at pag-organisa sa kanila.
shenbrood wrote on Dec 26, '09
Why would I vote for someone like Nicanor Perlas? Below are the 15 Reasons WHY I AM VOTING FOR NICANOR PERLAS...

1. Nicanor Perlas is the ONLY CANDIDATE with a complete platform.
2. Nicanor Perlas is the ONLY CANDIDATE with a clear peace agenda for Mindanao.
3. Nicanor Perlas is the ONLY CANDIDATE with a platform which integrates Indigenous People's rights and protection
4. Nicanor Perlas is the ONLY CANDIDATE which includes green principles and integral sustainable development in his platform and policies.
5. Nicanor Perlas is the ONLY CANDIDATE which had been awarded by International bodies such as the United Nations and the Right Livelihood Award.
6. Nicanor Perlas is the ONLY CANDIDATE which had done the impossible (Bataan Nuclear Power Plant, APEC, pesticides, etc.)
7. Nicanor Perlas is the ONLY CANDIDATE which creates a vision for a better future of our country.
8. 8. Nicanor Perlas is the ONLY CANDIDATE which will give priority to agriculture and has the experience and know how to do it.
9. Nicanor Perlas is the ONLY CANDIDATE which is not a traditional politician.
10. Nicanor Perlas is the ONLY CANDIDATE which proposes a systemic solution to our country's problems.
11. Nicanor Perlas is the ONLY CANDIDATE which includes cultural revolution and inner change in his platform and program of governance.
12. Nicanor Perlas is the ONLY CANDIDATE who advocates and practices new politics.
13. Nicanor Perlas is the ONLY CANDIDATE which sees everyone as equal partners in the development of the country.
14. Nicanor Perlas is the ONLY CANDIDATE which is qualified but was deemed nuisance by the COMELEC.
15. Nicanor Perlas is the ONLY CANDIDATE which has shown political will and personal will for more than 40 years of public service.

SO WHY NOT NICANOR PERLAS? Who else has that? If someone could tell me then I would be ready to leave this campaign and go for that other candidate.

We need to stand strong and fight with conviction. Yes it is about winning and we must win people to the real challenge at hand. If ever we want genuine change it should be systemic and it should be lead by us all through a leader which really knows the problem.
shenbrood wrote on Dec 26, '09
Kaya nga ang masasabi ko ang "Labo-Labo" talaga... play this song and know the fight we need to win...

marund4evr wrote on Jan 11, '10
ellafitz,

if not now..when?
i have not given time to assess what this really mean to the point of looking at the details. but i do have a few things in mind.

i think, our election is a battle in 2 fronts:
1. What our candidate can deliver for discussion and have his mind heard and his decisions favored.
2. And what we can expect from our electorate.

There are too many issues. Growing divide between rich and poor, decreasing quality of education, senseless violence, moral and political prostitution, and the list goes on. No doubt the "pillars" build on these issues. But translating this in votes means making plain these issues and sending the final message across as interesting and easy understood. The television is one efficient tool. But airtime means money. Internet is another powerful tool. But then with over 45 million voters, we need hundreds or thousands of bloggers, IT specialists, advertising and information campaign strategists, artists on our beck and call. All these people unique but working cohesively. I imagine, an ingenious and enormous working plan on how the issues will be addressed and developed sequentially. Finally, we need a social research team working in unison with statisticians to look at how readers fit or cement their views with our candidate. if winning a new undecided voter is easy, not so with our voters who may have picked up something along the way. In short, it’s not easy.

I’ve heard and read how senator trillanes is compared with success strategies. But the similarity of success is largely exaggerated. Presidency is a one slot and all or nothing. If there is one senator slot, than triallanes would have easily lost at top 11. And even if the elections were held a year after, trillanes would have a hard time maintaining the magic 12 with pimentel working on the media by then. In short, whether its internet or a growing number of soldiers’ discontent, the trillanes’ effect or phonemena was not relatable.

Going back over these social ills and issues, how can our candidate divide the time and money to discuss on air the merits of the "pillars". If this will come easy with the thinking middle class, how can we win supporters and generate a crowd of thousands to start and make noise from distinct classes all in one time? The questions can go on. But the valid point is that a grand strategy should be in place months back. I am afraid, there is not time enough to work on a machinery eager and smart enough to mobilize. And it is rather too late to consider that a hefty budget is a serious concern.

Next point is about the electorate and how much can we expect from them. Realistically, not much. Finding a greater divide growing between the thinking class and the poverty-striken lower class, where the majority lower class is incapable of perceiving issues on a barangay or citylevel, how much can we expect them to analyze and debate core issues central to the "pillars". Sometimes, even the thinking middle class falsely capitalize on content and what is measurable. but in the real order of things, issues of philippine society is rarely about scientific data but of looking at logic and philippine political history. It’s not about an engineering degree to find sound judgment. What i mean to say is that, our voters can not discern past the non-committal speak of candidates. Halata na nga na namomolitiko, pero di pa rin mahalata, in a manner of speaking. Candidates propose normative policies and programs that is merely to cater to the biases of who is currently listening. All in an elaborate ploy to just win votes. Sometimes, I’m close to condemning liberal democracy and its un-manageability in a developing country as ours. Mas maraming tanga kaysa nagiisip, thus the so called democracy eventually eats itself up in the maelstrom.

... So the point is, I would rather do it up slowly but surely. I would have Nick scale congress as this is comparatively not as budget and resource taxing. When we do succeed, then, we provoke an awareness of the "pillars" in our district. By the next election, when popular support on the idea
is brought to the fore, then others from our party take up the call to represent congress. And then we hurl Nick up the senate. By then, a considerable popularity and political machinery of importance is at our disposal. By the end of the senate term, and depending on how much political influence, then we consider VP or President. Twelve years from now is not too distant.
But this is more of my little minded plan.
But at least, it’s more realizable, I think.

As regards the apathy that nexkulit regards of me, I’m not sure if that is fair. But I do not think I have recanted my signature from the international petition list. Nor do I intend to do so in the future.
ellafitz wrote on Jan 11, '10, edited on Jan 12, '10
Hi marund4ever,

First of all so many people have recommended for Sir Nick to go thru congress/senate but he believes that the problem is not in making laws - there are already a lot of good laws out there that is simply not being followed. He feels he would be able to make maximum impact in the executive level. To me this makes a lot of sense, especially since he's held several positions that allowed him to excercise his ability to get things done.
http://nicanor-perlas.com/2010/perlas-qualifications.html

Second, we have proven that Sir Nick is an easy sell whenever we open up to individuals and share with them what he stands for. We find that the elements of the platform resonate with different stripes, and this leads me to believe even more that the electorate is fed up. The stereotype of the dumb voter is not an accurate nor fair one. They may lack resources but they still have their thinking facilities intact. Surprisingly the D demographic can read through the BS of the trapos.

As I read through your analysis I can't help but share your deep frustration about all that is wrong with RP. The difference is that I, together with the volunteers choose to do something now instead of being defeated by frustration.

I feel strongly about acting now because I believe we have a very capable leader (the best in fact, even Conrado de Quiros says so)
http://opinion.inquirer.net/inquireropinion/columns/view/20091220-243181/Nuisance

to offer the electorate. The opportunity for somebody as qualified and brave as Sir Nick for President is too great a gift for the country to delay 12 years. And it's not like we can afford to wait that long given our sorry state.

The volunteer team is doing well performing the legwork to realize our goals. We are moving in the grassroots level influencing people in a very authentic way. Money is not the sole mover. We believe that singing up for the cause is the more important move - logistics will follow as a natural step if the community is truly invested in the cause.

Thanks again for sharing your insight on the matter - I always welcome a good opportunity to dialogue =)

Please keep sending good energy to our cause =)
filipinowriter wrote on Jan 11, '10, edited on Jan 11, '10
Well-said, ellafitz. :) Btw, for those who haven't read yet, here's my contribution to the recent Blog Swarm for Nick: http://filipinowriter.com/20-reasons-why-im-campaigning-for-nicanor-perlas-to-be-the-next-philippine-president . It's a sort of Nicanor Perlas 101 for those who want to be introduced to Nick and what he stands for. And just like what ellafitz has implied, the movement actually is not just about Nick Perlas, but also about the people, about real participative democracy. What we are trying to do here is start a truly grassroots movement in which each citizen has a say, where the focus will be on the issues and not the personalities. If you want to learn more, you can attend the PANGMASA orientation every Saturday at the campaign headquarters: http://filipinowriter.com/20-reasons-why-im-campaigning-for-nicanor-perlas-to-be-the-next-philippine-president#comment-39455 . Or if you have already made up your mind to join PANGMASA, there's an online membership form which you can fill out: https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHV2U0FMY1k5Z1l1X2ZXRnhSVHpCY1E6MA
marund4evr wrote on Jan 12, '10

1. "The problem is not in making laws." A common knowledge that is indeed true. But I argue on the efficacy that we can deliver our campaign material. Narrow down the arena of the election and we got ourselves a headstart in congressional districts.

2. "Impact on the executive level." That is indeed true. But only if we stand as formidable as the next presidential opponent in terms of resources' mobility and organization. We win battles today and the next day we would have gathered strength in numbers and collective wisdom to win the war later on.

3. "The streotype of the dumb voter is not an accurate one." Look again. Ever even wonder why the aquinos and villars and estradas are making waves. And not perlas, gordon and his nephew. People are either too lazy to think or too preoccupied to feed their hunger. Dumb is not particularly accurate. Immature. And maturity can not be learned and breezed to a 5 month strategic plan. Simplescience, teaches us to submit to a simple plan - teach ourselves and our children. Open their minds to receive and explore. And later on, they would be able to think for themselves. We start off with a district with a manageable plan. And the rest will follow.

4. "The difference is that I, together with volunteers choose to do something now instead of being defeated by frustration." I am frustrated with the culture of corruption and ways of bad government. That is because I hate it and would not want to condone any of it. But I am not entirely given to despair, if that is what you mean. Far from it. Because I have come back is the single reason why I chose to live my destiny in a place I call home. I have met others better than I am who equally share my enthusiasm and passion for change. But the change will happen in time. Small steps, but sure and firm in purpose.

5. "Money is not the sole mover." That has been true for almost all endeavors. With money we can buy time and technology. Time enough to have our voices be heard. With money we can buy volunteers and their talent. Ironic. But realistic. Admit it, but its still people toiling to feed the family or running the risk to lose the job.

6. "Logistics will follow as a natural step if the community is truly invested in the cause." I support nick's noble cause. But in varying degrees. I hope people do not lay claim that I am less than true for not committing to more concrete support other than my vote for nick.

ellafitz wrote on Jan 12, '10
i hear where you're coming from marund4evr. magkaiba lang siguro ang approach natin. i appreciate your support for sir nick no matter that it is in varying degrees. thanks again =)
filipinowriter wrote on Jan 14, '10
Photos: I was there when COMELEC reinstated the future president of the Republic of the Philippines, Nicanor Perlas, as an official candidate! http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=179960&id=679768967 :D Wohoooo !!! :D Spread the word: New Politics is here to stay! Join PANGMASA now! :D https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHV2U0FMY1k5Z1l1X2ZXRnhSVHpCY1E6MA
shenbrood wrote on Jan 15, '10
@marund4evr Thanks for your commitment to vote for Nick and that is a major contribution. We all have our views and ideas and I think all of us should respect one another. What is important is that we work together to achieve a common end. Masaya ako na kasama ako sa kampanyang ito... personally I have lots of problems but my passion to realize the new Philippines is steaming great!

We are fired up and ready to go!
filipinowriter wrote on Jan 16, '10
Joey Ayala Supports Nicanor Perlas and New Politics! :D http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=180492&id=679768967
Join Joey and Nick as a PANGMASA member! http://kaperlas.com/index.php/pangmasa/join-pangmasa
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